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Agencies Posted: Dec 03, 2008 at 1614 hrs IST
Criticising the Centre's attitude after every terror strikes across the country, the Shiv Sena on Wednesday said the government should first flush out ‘mini Pakistans’ mushrooming in India and then think of teaching the neighbour country a lesson.

In a strongly worded editorial published in Samana, Shiv Sena mouthpiece, the party pointed out that "mini Pakistans" cropping up across India should be cleaned out on a priority basis in an attempt to prevent further terror attacks.

"When the time comes, teach Pakistan a lesson by launching an attack on it. But before that eliminate Pakistanis spread in India with your blessing (ruling politicians). If this is done, most of the things would be clear," reads Samana editorial.

"Besides Mumbai, large number of mini Pakistans have grown up in India. People residing in these mini Pakistans are not Indian Muslims. They are either Bangladeshi or Pakistani Muslims. Nobody is paying any attention on their anti-social activities. It is here where they were taught the lesson of 'Jihad'," the editorial stated.

It also equalled politicians with Lashkar-e-Toiba group as they were allegedly providing ration cards and ensuring that the people from mini Pakistan would get voting rights.

The party also demanded the execution of Afzal Guru's hanging who was convicted of conspiracy on Indian Parliament attack in 2001.

"Afzal Guru has been treated in Tihar jail as a guest. He is enjoying there. Afzal should be hanged to set an example on how India reacts to terrorist strikes. His hanging will give a strong message that whoever attacks India will either be hanged or be eliminated in encounter," the editorial says.

Talking over the terror attacks allegedly sponsored by

Lashkar-e-Taiba, Dawood Ibrahim and Masood Azhar, who was let off after a plane was hijacked in 1999, the editorial said, "Unless and until, the associates roaming around in various cities are eliminated, Dawood will strike similar terror attacks. Our ruling party leaders have become impotent and how will these impotent leaders fight terrorism?" the editorial asked.

Even as Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee claimed that Pakistan was allegedly involved in the Mumbai terror strikes, the editorial said, "Pakistan is in an enjoying mood and perhaps it may be gearing up for another terror strike."

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mini pakistanis by R Sundaresan on 2008-12-24 13:44:10.244915+05:30 Yes. I'm going very much along with Mr. Thackrey's statement. See how the Assm region is being bleeded by the terrorist activities triggered by HUJi (Bangladesh) planning being done in Bangladesh and executed by the local migrants. They are the real perpetrators. The migrated bangladeshis during the pre 1971 and settled in Assam in enjoying every benefit of Voted ID Ration card and even they are dominating in politics also and the so called secular partys won't mind it because of their need of vote bank. It should not be a suprise thing thatnow the migrated bangladeshis are the deciding factors of the leader of their region in Asssam. We never worried about deporting the migrants post 1971 becasue our political leaders are vote mongers and they need these migrants support. In my view the migrants should be flushed out

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Paki-Satan by Kaushik on 2008-12-24 11:32:50.424895+05:30 I think Its High time we Indians need to grow up and show some maturity in these kind of remarks. We dont expect any sivsena fighting along with our bhartiya Sena to eradicate terrorism.But Mr. BalaSaheb is it not true that your people ransack property and create mayhem when it comes against your principles ,like westernism,communal issues, religion etc.so if we can digest those facts then we were expecting your action against terrorism. can your Siv Sena has the guts to fight terrorism across border. you expect that soon there will be Hindu terrorists but I belive the term terrorist is someone who is coward. we Indians are not. we are ready to fight head on. so lets not talk about Bandh,strikes etc. this is not going to help us.

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Flush out 'mini Pakistans' mushrooming in country by Ramesh on 2008-12-24 11:29:44.370024+05:30 I fully agree with above view and we need true Leader who safeguards Hindustan. First they should implement POTA and Imeplement new law where in all Politicians / Election commision / Governor / MP / MLA etc should retire at the age of 60 years. Then only Young and efficient leaders will get opportunity otherwise this will become family run politics.I have following views points Central Govt should be terminated / sacked immediately. Just they are minting money in the name of Nuclear deal and Crude Oil PricesImpose Military Govt / President RuleGive PM post to Mr.Narendra ModiEnforce new law wherein all politicians should retire at the age of 60Remove all reservations and give free education to poor irrespective of religionImplement POTA to fight against terrorism All citizen of india should fight together towards achieving above result.

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about terrorist by kannan k iyengar on 2008-12-24 01:39:30.171519+05:30 Very well said mr bala sheb thakere. this what our politician should do first. people like ram vilas paswan who is in support of regularising the nationality of those bangladeshis crossed in to our country so that he can get his required votes from them. and what about mr antulay. he is also keen to talk on the hindu terrorist as though they are the responsible people for this terror attack. when every thing is available in black and white why should he make such an unwanted comment. when are our politician will ever learn to be united in fighting the terrorist.

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evedance as indian by KVVN on 2008-12-23 19:28:27.596603+05:30 every person must have ID card with photo, stating as Indian, and keep record with finger print in electronic system for quick reference, ro solve problem

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Terror's Own Country by a citizen on 2008-12-23 18:03:58.493995+05:30 kerala is the next Pakistan .The terror group is very active in this state ,thanks to the funds comming from Middle east in guise of charity and mushrooming Maddarassas across the state with the blessing of Indian Union Muslim league who is a partner in the congress lead coialation .They have misused official machinery to meet their communal ends whenever they were in Power .Mr AK Antory when he was the chied minister of Kerala denied a CBI probe in to the Notorius Marad communal violence fearing that one of the top Muslim League leader will be arrested. We must stop communal forces comming in power to stop breeding anti social activities and terror group organising in this country .Kerala will become "Terror's own country "in no time considering the Malayalies terrorists are killed reccently in kashmir along with Pak trained ones

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Thackerays by Niranjan on 2008-12-04 16:11:06.610315+05:30 My suggestion to the Thackerays is this: First try to get the illegal Bangladeshis in Mumbai, Maharashtra before setting your sights on the other Indians legally living in their own homeland.

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Where were they when Maharashtra needed them most? by Suresh on 2008-12-04 00:19:34.068208+05:30 Thakare might be right. But where were Blasaheb or Raj during the three days of attacks. These where the people who made news all over the media for the sake of maharashtrians a few days back. during the ordeal, we did not hear any news channel showing them doing any sort of social work in mumbai or heard from them. Were they too scared - AK-47 / grenades against lathis

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1 what is ur expectation
by Nanda on 2008-12-04 13:29:21.949269+05:30What do u think he could have done during those 3 days? are u sure u are making sense? Why do u want politicians to interrupt when Army is doing its job. If Modi comes, it is wrong, if Thakarey doesn't come, it is also wrong. Are u people crazy?

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1 Keep your Calculation with You
by Saccha Gujarati on 2008-12-05 02:02:43.063498+05:30why are they coming after the mayhem with Z plus security. They should come when mayhem is going on without security and by the way, why its firing you, are you kin to any of these. Jai Hind

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1 Misplaced bashing
by rohan bhosale on 2008-12-24 13:27:29.73042+05:30I agree with Nanda. The quiet from politicans during the 3-day carnage was welcome since that allowed the right ppl to carry oput the proceedings correctly. Just bashing some personalities for the sake of it is not going to solve the issue. Make it issue based and rational. Blindly following a demon is not good but if sermon comes from a dacoit why not give it the due respect.

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Need of the hour by ss on 2008-12-04 00:08:15.077581+05:30 Thackeray himself tries to divide the country based on region on the basis of marathi manoos v/s the rest of india. First talk of uniting all indians forget about religon, caste or marathi manoos and all that crap. Then talk of mini-Pakistan. We need a party which will talk of ONE INDIA FOR ALL INDIANS. That is the need of the hour. The congress with its minority -majority bullshit and the BJP/RSS with its only Hindu agenda are dividing the country. Of course I am not a congress supporter because today the congress is a party of opportunits, corrupt politicians, cheaters, chamchas and eunuchs who cannot even hang someone who has been convicted by the supreme court of masterminding terror attacks. That shows today we need a truly secular nationalistic party which can show the way. Which can treat each and every Indian from every corner of the country from Kashmir to Kanyakumari with respect and protect them. That is the need of this hour.

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ILLegal Immigrants in India by Jit on 2008-12-03 23:57:34.792079+05:30 Saamna is right on target this time. THIS IS MOST SERIOUS #1 PROBLEM OF INDIA today. Unless politicians stop supporting these outsiders for voting mandate, nothing will improve.

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Begining of terror by concerned Indian on 2008-12-03 23:42:38.217054+05:30 Bal Thackery supported just few weeks before an accused terrorist from his community. Even he went on to say that the ATS investigating the terror group affliated to him should be eliminated. How these stupids immediately opens their filthy mouth against a particular community ? Innocents killed by him and his party runs into thousands and lakhs. It is high time Indians should shun these hypocrites and their all affliated parties. It should be noted that India was a peaceful country without terrorist attacks just before 6th dec 1992, hence all terrorist activities later should be attributed to him and his affliate parties.

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FOLLOW POLITCIANS AS AN INDIAN by Prakash on 2008-12-03 20:38:37.65792+05:30 Hello Indian Brothers and Sisters,You find this man making statement to attack Pakistan by teaching a lesson. War is not a solution you all and everyone know.It only kills innocent soliders of the both countires where we as civilans take pride and give out condolenses to the greived families.DO NOT FEEL OFFENDED if say that Bal sitting on some corner makes a religious comments which is unsafe to INDIA and the followers bilindly follow. When we proclaim that we are united Indians there is no prospect for wordings from religion,caste,language etc and we cannot be biased now.As united we all will uphold strength to speak to inefficient politicians and progress of our own country. Let me please remind all my brothers and sisters of India that we have no religion.caste or language as barrier which all politicians cooly made fool of us until now.Hope we are made no fools again by any politicians and ofall WE SHOULD NOT PRACTICE AND RITUALS ENACTED BY POLTICIANSJai HinD

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I agree with Balasaheb by Dr.B.K.R. Nair on 2008-12-03 19:07:34.04456+05:30 I agree with Balasaheb.It was BJP,RSS and Shiv sena because of which our country is safe and united

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1 ONE INDIA FOR ALL INDIANS
by SS on 2008-12-03 23:59:31.653211+05:30wah wah dr. Nair. It is because of so-called 'intellectuals' like you who cannot distinguish between right and wrong that our country is in such problems. When BJP was in power they took the terrorists to Kandahar and released Masood Azhar. In Gujarat during BJP regime in 2002, innocent women and men were killed merely because they happened to be Muslims. Now these same 'orphans' will become terrorists and strike you back will never before. I am not a supporter of Congress. I hate Congress because they are a party of eunuchs. They are unable to even do pissing in their pants without the permission of their 'madam'. A noble person like Abdul Kalam was removed from the post of president just because they did not like him, and instead of Kalam some non-sense lady like Pratibha Patil has been installed as President. But at the same time what RSS and Shiv Sena is doing is that they are dividing the country. Why can't RSS recruit Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Parsis etc. into their ranks and make it a truly national organization? Why try to divide the nation again based on religion (like what BJP/RSS are doing). On the other hand Shiv Sena and MNS are dividing the nation based on Marathi-manoos v/s. non-marathi manoos.Which party will stand up for ONE INDIA FOR ALL INDIANS.....

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Bal Thakeray is right by adishesh on 2008-12-03 19:00:30.568191+05:30 I think Bal Thakeray is being misunderstood. We regard Islam followers in India as our brothers

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1 Brothers?
by Arshad on 2008-12-24 11:34:24.593729+05:30Oh of course Adishesh, you regard us as our brothers. You sure were brotherly to us in Gujarat when you massacred us Muslims like DOGS! Instead of blaming other countries and blaming a group of people, we should be blaming our government! They're the ones who failed in foiling this attack, even if Pakistan was behind it (which I doubt) then that still doesn't excuse why our security forces didn't act in time. For 3 DAYS the whole world watched kids fighting against "professional trained Commandos". Bal Thakeray is nothing but a war monger and a racist who's trying to divide India. He doesn't even consider us Muslims Indian to begin with!

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Bal Thakeray remarks by Birat Banerjee on 2008-12-03 18:53:11.62122+05:30 What Bal Thakeray is saying is correct. it is the stupid

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REAL CULPRITS by ADIL BUTT on 2008-12-03 18:45:07.425793+05:30 PARTIES LIKE SHIV SENA ARE BIGGER TREATS TO THE NATION THAN THE ONE TIME FIRING TERORISTS.WE CAN ATLEAST KILL THEM AND FINISH THE SHIT,BUT THESE VOCAL TERRORIST ARE THE MAIN DIVIDING FORCE DISTRUBING THE WHOLE COUNTRY.PLEASE LEAVE OUR INDIA AND LET US LEAVE HERE IN PEACE.

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mini pakistan by anil on 2008-12-03 18:26:22.198599+05:30 Bal Thackeray needs to address first that what action he and his party has taken to flush out illegal Bangladeshi muslims when his party was in power in Maharashtra. He was champion in flushing out south Indians from Maharashtra and now his son is doing the same for north Indians.

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Terror from Paki stan by Ashok Jog on 2008-12-03 18:19:17.401793+05:30 The problem with Paki satn is that is got there without any work. It was simply handed to them by the departing British. Since then it has lived on hand-outs. Of course, once people get used to a free-ride sydrome, they believe that the world owes them a living. On the back of huge hand-outs, they built themselves lots of terror mongers, includes the army and ISI , which is given far too much credit. Dealing with Pake stan, well do so in a language it understands. Kill , maim, destroy. Rip it aprt, not throgh military action; there is enough disaffection within that place, should not be too much hard work. Otherwise it will never chage. kutte ki dum syndrome.

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1 Work
by Hasan Khandawala on 2008-12-24 11:45:21.671266+05:30My friend, there are over 50 million Indians who have abandonned India to drive taxis in New York and sell Chicken Tikka in London. Whereas only 3.5 million Pakistanis have left Pakistan and the majority live within the Gulf region. Learn to speak with facts first before barking like dog.

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mini Pakistan by undefined on 2008-12-03 18:00:18.609463+05:30 Ban shiv sena and mns first. Arrest these domestic terrorists first. They r the worst enemies of the nation. They should be countered first .

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Mini Pakistan by m.y.khan on 2008-12-03 17:25:17.839495+05:30 hello every body in this contess.I would like to inform the sana how you dear to say that pakistan shall be taught a lession in respect of bumbay attack.I want to make it clear to you and all otheres in india thinking like this,mind it that pakistan is equally an atomic power as india.If yuor will and wish is to attack pakistan what do you think pakistan will not attak on india.I tell mr sana or what soever your name, people like you and Ball thakaray are the worse amoung educated people.you mind set up is like this that always your thinking is negative.There is solution of every crises but in that way as you and your mates think.Fisrt of all think how many innosent people were killed in bumbay attack/Samghota express fire attack and so many others.This is my advice to the indian authority to controll the people like sana and ball thakaray.No one shall give these type of remarks to the other nations / countries.It wii=ll be good to solve kashyour internal/kashmir issue.

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1 Mini Pakistan
by Shans on 2008-12-03 18:36:12.684112+05:30Dear Mr M Y Khan,It is pity that you were not born in India to realise the depth of India. Can you narrate a single example in your country where the Prime minister is from a minority and the ex president was a muslim and a pioner of our nuclear research activity. May I ask you where have all the hindus disappeared who were present at the time of creation of Pakistan. Just because you have nuclear power, you cannot prevail over India nor will you be successful. If pakistan cannot get rid of religious bigotry, you will be yourself engulfed by your own flames. May all of you see the true light of islam and its importance. Do not live in medeival ages but emerge out of it.

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1 Shan The "Enlightened One"
by Hasan Khandawala on 2008-12-24 11:39:52.597168+05:30Excuse me, but what does having a Muslim President in India do for the Muslim masses of India? Nothing. You Indians go around waving a banner of how our ex-President was a Indian, and then you go around mass murdering those very same Muslims of India. The problem with certain Indians is that they claim to be so "enlightened" and modern, and then we hear cases of Gujarat, Nuns being Raped in Kolkata, and lets not forget the plight of the Kashmiris as well. Pakistan is not something Indians should take lightly at all, they have just as much patriotism and pride in there country as we do in ours and will defend there nation just as much as we will defend ours. So keep waving that banner all you want, it's pointless and ridiculous when we have religious riots on a monthly basis across this nation.

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1 LOL
by Sandip on 2008-12-24 15:14:01.89652+05:30it seems the only thing you can talk about is what happened in Gujrat. I guess you havent seen the Muslim people in India who have excelled. I am not a zionist Hindu but to my memory the Gujrat carnage was started not by Hindus. Those 47 lives were nothing for you i guess?

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2 response to M Y Khan
by ringo on 2008-12-03 18:03:36.321843+05:30I think M Y Khan and other Pakistanis posting here should try to improve their english language skills. Perhaps they should broaden their horizons and go to an institution unaffiliated with a MADrassa.

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1 Madrassa
by Hasan Khandawala on 2008-12-24 11:43:18.590914+05:30English? The national language of India is Hindi while the national language of Pakistan is Urdu. Pakistanis take pride in there own language, they love speaking it, whereas our India we beg for English! Why? This stupid colonial mentality must stop, we need to promote our own languages and culture not the west. And please do not disrespect the Madrassas, if you understood the actual concept of them then you wouldn't be speaking like that. But alas, India will never learn.

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2 Response to MYKhan
by Mohan Agashe on 2008-12-03 18:50:32.306539+05:30No, I think they need psychological help. Now we are not surprised how terrorists are born there. And listen,MIya Khan, Raj Thakeray

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Pakis the terrorists by rony on 2008-12-03 17:25:15.411831+05:30 though i dont agree with any of the idealogical point of Shiv Sena, but this one has forced me to support. This shows, tht they still have some self respect left.Afzal should not be hanged, i feel he must be "stoned to death" in public immediately.Not only him, India must blush out all the Terrorist "enjoying"(rightly said by Shiv Sena) in Indian Prisons, including Abu Salem, why the hell they r kept alive? we all know Police or Govt will never be able to catch Dawood Ibrahim, then why ot wait for some information from these terrorists.. Just "stone them to death" or shoot at sight immeadiately after they r caught.This is the way to handle them and show them, tht we are against terror. Now this new terrorist.. caught after Mumbai attack-- enough of getting information.its time to hand over him to Mumbai Public and let him feel the pain of dying. other wise he will be next Masood Azhar.No promises please its time to act.KILL all terrorists NOW.

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bal dumbfuckeray by breatheasy on 2008-12-03 17:23:19.94819+05:30 it's a pity that the only person raising these issues is a bigot and a third rate racist son of a bitch. anyways, it's time to destroy pakistan and take back sindh and punjab

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Flush out 'mini Pakistans' mushrooming in country by mohi on 2008-12-03 17:21:01.355287+05:30 I strongly agree with this article. And people like Afzal Guru, Abu salem should be hangged immediatly.

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Terrorism within by Wonderworld on 2008-12-03 17:08:40.940906+05:30 It's great of Shiv Sena to say that Indian Muslims are not terrorists (a big change I would say) and I agree we need to first flush out terrorism within. However, it's thick coming from the party who (with its allies) attacks churches, indulges into ethnic violence. This is the party that supports (to say the least) killing of poor labourers from Bihar and UP in Mumbai in the name of Marathi Manoos. It's another thing that no one from this party came to help Marathi Manoos on Nove 26. I would say lets flush terrorists from within first. It's time we realise that all those of divide us in the name of religion, region, caste are also terrorists. All those who think that indulging in riots to build some temple or mosque is not terrorism...need to think again. Yes, Shiv Sena is right...lets flush internal terrorists first!

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1 Why blame Bal Thakeray?
by Milind Deshmane on 2008-12-03 19:05:22.438023+05:30Why blame Bal Thakeray for calling a spade a spade? What you see today is a total sellout of the country's interest by Congress.

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dont forget the past by pakru on 2008-12-03 17:06:18.579318+05:30 people not agreeing to this msg should rememer that in one of the studies done by govrnmnt of india it was proven that communal riots only happen in places said as "mini pakistan" if the majority is hindu nothing happends there .

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flush out mini pakistan by ajay on 2008-12-03 16:52:19.240739+05:30 I agree, first we set our house in order, before talking abt pakistan. If the Govt of india can not handle the issue of Illegal Bangladeshi and Pakistanis due to their vote bank politics, why blame pakistan for the problems.

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LOL by anny on 2008-12-03 16:51:06.338264+05:30 ha ha ha Shiv sena Back in action... since 26th... no word was heard from them LOL... now they talk about Mini Pakistanis... and they them self???

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1 hiding
by INDIAN PATRIOT on 2008-12-03 18:07:45.606553+05:30yes they are the hididng now because of the law

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what a bull shit.... by ravi on 2008-12-03 16:43:15.086872+05:30 the article in SAMANA by Shiv sena had truly expressed the sentiment of cheap politics for the first time after mumbai 26/11. It had talked about flushing out mini pakistan. Mr. editor of SAMANA, there is no pakisatn in whatsoever form on the land of Hindustan i.e. Aryavarta. it is the cheap political playcard used by your party each and every time to foll the people of India. such a downtrodden political stunt cannot fool the citizens of india or any person who is a resident of india. please come with a clean hand and with vaible political solution through the political dailogue process whcih fosters faith and trust of the governed. Today you had talked about mini pakistan tomorrow another wing i.e MNS chief will come out with saying that first flush out "mini Bihar" or "mini UP" from Mahrashtra. please avoid such a political stunt. hope in future such a idea will never be floated by political parties.

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Pakis the Terrorists by P.S.Mankotia on 2008-12-03 16:20:42.164853+05:30 Shiv Sena is 100% truthful. It has outlined the present situation of India and suggested the next course of action to be taken these mini pakis. Unless these measures are taken, this country can not be saved. Impotent leaders will not do any thing for India. Therefore, it is only Shive Sena which can lead this country in a respected manner.

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Pakis the Terrorists by P.S.Mankotia on 2008-12-03 16:20:41.301029+05:30 Shiv Sena is 100% truthful. It has outlined the present situation of India and suggested the next course of action to be taken these mini pakis. Unless these measures are taken, this country can not be saved. Impotent leaders will not do any thing for India. Therefore, it is only Shive Sena which can lead this country in a respected manner.

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* by true indian on 2008-12-03 16:12:35.328036+05:30 I strongly agree with his point. If we get hold of the silent terrorists who will not strike from the front but will give support, we should find them and hang them in public. Then these people will realise what will happen if you unloyal to your mother land.

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1 Pakis the Terrorists
by subhash on 2008-12-03 16:55:17.973383+05:30Where did shiva sena hide when these kind of atrocities happened in Mumbai. If they had their own army to save amchi mumbai they should have sent them to the spot to tackle them..... it is you public who should be cautious and learn how to tackle these outfits...

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2 Mini Pakistan
by Mohammed on 2008-12-03 16:35:43.655409+05:30Yes. And we must start with these "True Indians" who are out to divide this country. Wonder how such posts get past the online editor...

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1 jihadis
by T.Jayaprakash on 2008-12-03 17:28:20.522174+05:30In the write up,nowhere is the word Islam used.If people hate pakistan,why should someone like Mohammed get worked up.Is pakistan dearer to you than a country man like Thackeray?No wonder that with people like you terrorists get free access into india.

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2 Be united
by karunakar on 2008-12-03 17:19:44.346536+05:30Everybody must be very conscious how the terrorists are becoming successful. They are using our people (irrespective of religion) by giving money or by using sentiments of people. I do not believe, an Indian will not accept to help a terrorist knowingly. We must believe in each other and stay together.

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3 mini
by Prashanth on 2008-12-03 17:14:20.394988+05:30Mr.Mohammed, don't be scared they are talking about the pakisthani's reciding in india illegally... and doing anti national activities.

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4 Mini Pakistan
by gaurav on 2008-12-03 17:13:39.782804+05:30looks like True indian's words have hurt you mr.Mohammed.... try to feel how much the bullets hurt the indians.. if words hurt you so much

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5 no voting
by hindustani on 2008-12-03 16:53:52.35495+05:30dear friends do not go for voting as no votes will result in president rule which will bring the military raj in action which can only help in eradicating terrors, lets join hands for an attack on PoK and Pakistan occupied Punjab, this small thing can also teach these fanatics a good lesson.

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1 Pakistan support Terrorism
by charlie on 2008-12-03 18:24:55.946325+05:30I have this message for this dumb pakistanis. Pakistan should interview Kasav (Capture Terrorist) and asked him question what part of country he was from. He's from Pakistan. Pakistan are not doing anything. They're just sitting on their asses and enjoying what the hell is happening int the world because they know they have all terrorist from Dawood to bin laden staying in Pakistan and ofcourse they're all muslims. US, Britan

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